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Jeff Harbaugh's avatar

When people talk about invading Cuba I remember this quote from David Halberstam's book The Best and the Brightest:

"There were men who opposed the invasion or at the very least were uneasy with it and, to a degree, they were the same men who would later oppose the Vietnam commitment. One was general David M. Shoup, Commandant of the Marine Corp. When talk about invading was becoming fashionable, General Shoup did a remarkable display with maps. First he took an overlay of Cuba and place it over the map of the United States. To everybody's surprise, Cuba was not a small Island along the lines of, say, Long Island at best. It was about 800 miles long and seemed to stretch from New York to Chicago. Then he took another overlay, with a red dot, and placed it over the map of Cuba. "What's that?" some one asked him. "That, gentlemen, represents the size of the island of Tarawa," said Shoup, who had won a Medal of Honor there, "and it took us three days and eighteen thousand Marines to take it." He eventually became Kennedy's favorite general.

I wish Shoup could talk to Trump. Probably be a waste of time.

Tim pigden's avatar

Sorry Wes - 2 examples where USA successfully managed regime change post war:

Iran 1953. Ousted a democratically elected regime that wanted to nationalise oil production.

Chile 1973.

So USA does manage successful regime changes. (the first one was aided by us Brits). (but "Are we the bad guys?")

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