When people talk about invading Cuba I remember this quote from David Halberstam's book The Best and the Brightest:
"There were men who opposed the invasion or at the very least were uneasy with it and, to a degree, they were the same men who would later oppose the Vietnam commitment. One was general David M. Shoup, Commandant of the Marine Corp. When talk about invading was becoming fashionable, General Shoup did a remarkable display with maps. First he took an overlay of Cuba and place it over the map of the United States. To everybody's surprise, Cuba was not a small Island along the lines of, say, Long Island at best. It was about 800 miles long and seemed to stretch from New York to Chicago. Then he took another overlay, with a red dot, and placed it over the map of Cuba. "What's that?" some one asked him. "That, gentlemen, represents the size of the island of Tarawa," said Shoup, who had won a Medal of Honor there, "and it took us three days and eighteen thousand Marines to take it." He eventually became Kennedy's favorite general.
I wish Shoup could talk to Trump. Probably be a waste of time.
Iran 1953 ….. well, yes, but look how that turned out. I wouldn’t call that a success story, except possibly for the oil barons. And what exactly is it that Cuba has that Trump wants? Can he just stop pissing the world off for a couple of months? It’s so exhausting trying to keep up with all this.
It’s the Bannon playbook…keep people overwhelmed with new catastrophes. It won’t stop at Cuba. Greenland and Canada are definitely still on the agenda. The draft registration and looking to GM and Ford to aid in military production is for a reason.
One can support a military’s existence and respect its professionalism and service without thinking it’s the answer to every single problem the country faces. Of course, that requires a commander-in-chief who doesn’t think with balls of alcohol-soaked tissue paper, so we’re screwed for a little while longer.
For which kind of indispensable cuban ressources? AI tells us: Cuba's top exports in 2024 were rolled tobacco, zinc ore, nickel mattes, hard liquor, and precious metal ore. The main destinations for these exports were China, Spain, Germany, Macau, and Switzerland. I did not check about volumes and did not compare with US imports to get a % of cuban goodies. But surely not worth the cost of an "invasion". Not taking human lives into account. Probably these illegal live practice exercises are done to get US soldiers trained for their next intervention? But where? On american territory? Greenland? Taiwan? Send SecWar there! Lol
When people talk about invading Cuba I remember this quote from David Halberstam's book The Best and the Brightest:
"There were men who opposed the invasion or at the very least were uneasy with it and, to a degree, they were the same men who would later oppose the Vietnam commitment. One was general David M. Shoup, Commandant of the Marine Corp. When talk about invading was becoming fashionable, General Shoup did a remarkable display with maps. First he took an overlay of Cuba and place it over the map of the United States. To everybody's surprise, Cuba was not a small Island along the lines of, say, Long Island at best. It was about 800 miles long and seemed to stretch from New York to Chicago. Then he took another overlay, with a red dot, and placed it over the map of Cuba. "What's that?" some one asked him. "That, gentlemen, represents the size of the island of Tarawa," said Shoup, who had won a Medal of Honor there, "and it took us three days and eighteen thousand Marines to take it." He eventually became Kennedy's favorite general.
I wish Shoup could talk to Trump. Probably be a waste of time.
Sorry Wes - 2 examples where USA successfully managed regime change post war:
Iran 1953. Ousted a democratically elected regime that wanted to nationalise oil production.
Chile 1973.
So USA does manage successful regime changes. (the first one was aided by us Brits). (but "Are we the bad guys?")
I stand corrected. Thank you sir. We're not the baddies yet, I'm optimistic for the future.
Iran 1953 ….. well, yes, but look how that turned out. I wouldn’t call that a success story, except possibly for the oil barons. And what exactly is it that Cuba has that Trump wants? Can he just stop pissing the world off for a couple of months? It’s so exhausting trying to keep up with all this.
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It’s the Bannon playbook…keep people overwhelmed with new catastrophes. It won’t stop at Cuba. Greenland and Canada are definitely still on the agenda. The draft registration and looking to GM and Ford to aid in military production is for a reason.
One can support a military’s existence and respect its professionalism and service without thinking it’s the answer to every single problem the country faces. Of course, that requires a commander-in-chief who doesn’t think with balls of alcohol-soaked tissue paper, so we’re screwed for a little while longer.
Carnation Revolution, folks. Please.
Wouldn't the Russians have something to say about this?
I think they would protest very loudly. But I'm not sure they are in a position to change the outcome.
They're a little bit preoccupied these days.
And a little bit on the other side of the world.
And in most of those "noble retreats" a lot of heavy weaponries were left in the hands of the natives. Free of charge. Right? Tks
Gulf of Mexico.
Unable to conquer Iran…let’s move on to Cuba.
For which kind of indispensable cuban ressources? AI tells us: Cuba's top exports in 2024 were rolled tobacco, zinc ore, nickel mattes, hard liquor, and precious metal ore. The main destinations for these exports were China, Spain, Germany, Macau, and Switzerland. I did not check about volumes and did not compare with US imports to get a % of cuban goodies. But surely not worth the cost of an "invasion". Not taking human lives into account. Probably these illegal live practice exercises are done to get US soldiers trained for their next intervention? But where? On american territory? Greenland? Taiwan? Send SecWar there! Lol
It makes no sense. But such is the world and our country with djt