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Bruce Skelly's avatar

That Amazon delivery truck driving down the street may contain an entire air force of drones.

Wes O'Donnell's avatar

Exactly! I was just thinking I have a garage FULL of cardboard. I'll send it right over to Ukraine if it will help lol

Robot Bender's avatar

An entirely new reason to recycle cardboard!

BG Pete Chiefari's avatar

Wes, as a graduate Aeronautical Engineer many many years ago, I am absolutely delighted that Ukraine and now Japan are using cardboard drones! Thank you for writing this. It made my day! PS I had no idea they even existed!

steak's avatar

For a good laugh consider the USA defense oligarchs ever allowing a cheap munition to be produced that could threaten their wunderwaffens.

d.'s avatar

Well written, concise and to the point. Thank you for this stack!

Stephen Schiff's avatar

CIWS was designed to defeat Soviet antiship cruise missiles, which were both massive and hardened. For example the warhead fuzes are typically mounted behind the warhead making it nearly impossible to disable it. The short engagement range results in the missile being able to reach the target even with its wings shot off. Thus CIWS has to score many hits to literally break the missile apart. Hence the firing rate and long dwell time. Oh, BTW Soviet antiship cruise missiles have large radar cross sections in comparison to drones so repurposing CIWS to deal with drones is a non-trivial exercise.

Seldon Crisis Log's avatar

We’ll be fine, I’m sure Hegseth is on this like white on rice.

Ranulf de Glanvill's avatar

Or like a hobo on a ham sandwich...

Seldon Crisis Log's avatar

Like a Deus Vult tattoo on a white nationalist.

HeyMom's avatar

ding, ding, ding!!

Robot Bender's avatar

Or like an idiot on a microphone. 🙄

Graham Nolan's avatar

Ship-mounted energy weapons as somebody wrote plus your own defensive drone swarm of autonomous interceptor drones.

Somebody is already talking about fielding a drone carrier I believe.

Design a 5 metre square room/compartment - each with say 4 flip-open lids and four mechanisms for feeding drones up to these openings. Sort of an upside-down version of those interceptor drone moutings on that Ukrainian twin-engine turboprop aircraft. So each 5 meter room can launch 4 drones at once and have a 'loaded' capacity of 12 or 16 drones. Now cover the flight deck with these 5 metre rooms. Super-cheap VLS system.

There's the small matter of networking the defensive swarm but that is where you put some of your saved expenditure. That and the counter-EW apparatus to maintain swarm control when an attacker is bathing the area with signal clutter.

Crazy to think that just five years ago even suggesting this would get you laughed at.

Jack Carter's avatar

That was a funny good one! Thank you

MarkBWI's avatar

The US is close to having a microwave weapon which should make short work of these drones.

Stephen Schiff's avatar

Yeah, it's been just around the corner for a good thirty years. Almost as long as high energy lasers.

Snarkiness aside the Achilles heel of directed energy weapons is their utterly dismal power conversion efficiency. Typically a few percent.

MarkBWI's avatar

But on a ship they're great because that's one thing ships have, excess power. For portability and efficiency the relatively new GAN technology we see in our impossibly small device chargers is making these systems faesible. Lasers are coming along as well but there's so much noise out there on which one is good enough. Problem with our navy is they move at the speed of a glacier. Russia used to just slap new weapon systems on their ships without removing the old ones. I think we need to get something going asap and fine tune it later.